He is married to Kirstie Dates and is the proud father of their children, Charlie Edward Dates II & Claire Dates. Saddleback Church doubles down on support for female pastors, Mormonisms slow shift away from demonizing working mothers, Faith leaders urge Biden to sign executive order for reparations study by Juneteenth, For many congregations, wiping out medical debt has become a popular calling. I cant speak for them. "The Kingdom work is never to stop with one generation. If I can help these churches recognize Gods hand in their past as a kind of indication of God, of what God wants to do in the future, then I think I can hand it off to the next generation in good fashion. How has God moved and worked in ones life? What happend to your, well Jesus called the Pharisees wolves and a whole lot other mean words' defense (like when Trump called people sons of b*tches and a**holes)? In op-eds announcing their decisions to leave, Charlie Dates of Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church and Ralph D. West of Houstons The Church Without Walls both criticized SBC seminary presidents declaration that critical race theory was incompatible with the denominations statement of faith. Show Progressive Baptist Church Podcast, Ep Great Expectations | Joshua 14:6-15 | Pastor Bryan Carter - Jul 26, 2022 The average member was around before Charlie (hes been there ~10 years) and knows hes not the only one who can lead them. Our PBC Teens are highly engaged in biblical teaching and discussion on how to navigate a Christian life amongst their peers. The two churches will remain separate, and he plans on preaching two sermons each Sunday. That is a concerning statement. There is a young man in our midst who is an exceptional preacher, Pastor Meeks told congregants Sunday, calling Charlie Dates both called and qualified., He came out of our church, says Meeks, and its time for young people to step up and be given a chance.. What I will say is that Progressive and Salem demonstrate the spectrum of Black churches in Chicago. Its fair to say that I understand the dynamics of congregational leadership and development in both churches. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. We want to see our church grow. That philosophy has weakened whatever prophetic potential the SBC has. Theres something about the formation of my mind and my theological heart that is directly shaped by and impacted by watching all of that, and working in all of that, as I came of age, he said. This was why I felt it safe to forge an alliance. It was the first time to my knowledge that white evangelicals had celebrated in concert the life, memory and work of the Rev. 53 min; FEB 8, 2023 "Can't Turn . Religion News Service reported that Fred Luter, the only black SBC president, signed on in agreement. Charlie Dates has been working as a Youngest Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church for 12 years. Meeks, who plans to stay involved with Hope of House, Salems philanthropic organization, is one of the latest longtime U.S. church leaders to step down. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. In addition, the 41-year-old also served under Meeks as primary preaching assistant, pastor of adult ministries, and director of church operations at Salem Baptist before becoming senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church in 2011. That would just be weird. Rev. In January 2023, Reverend Dates became the Senior Pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. While continuing to lead Progressive Baptist, the 41-year-old pastor was named the successor to James Meeks at Salem Baptist Church, one of the citys biggest congregations. If you have legal questions, attorneys will be available to help you at the legal clinic. Progressives buildings were built without a dime of debt at a time where Black people could not get a loan from a bank. How has he influenced you? But there are others who sit close to power within the SBC and who are silent against the racism that plagues their own congregations. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. "Not only is he called, but he is qualified or educated. What I benefit from is far greater than just a tip from him here or there; its more of a model of a life lived. On one hand, Progressive is what I would call progressively traditional, and Salem is traditionally progressive. CT interviewed him about the history of the two congregations and his call to lead Salem Baptist. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism? As for me and the Progressive Baptist Church, I keep hearing the words of Harriet Tubman: We out.. In a video posted Monday, Meeks called Dates the greatest preacher in our nation., The Bible says one man planteth and another man watereth, and God giveth the increase, he said in the video, with his wife Jamell Meeks, director of Salems womens ministries, at his side. If we in the SBC had shown as much sorrow for the painful legacy that sin has left as we show passion to decry CRT, we probably wouldnt be in this mess., Critical race theory isnt clearly defined, but generally refers to an approach to racism as systemic and embedded in society. I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. But what is liberal in the history of American Christianity? How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? Dates wrote in an op-ed Friday for the Religion News Service. Its kind of like a kid learning a language; when youre immersed in the language, no one has to tell you what words mean and what signals mean.. Sad, but not at all surprising. All the old leaders stay in place and dont open up and make room for new leadership. Please click here to learn how. Learn more. Its evangelism, its benevolence, its disciple-making have all been very Christo-centric and rooted in the Scriptures. In his June 19 sermon, he told congregants hes retiring as of January 15, 2023, and the Rev. This isnt something that I read or something that I watched; this is a ministry that I participated in and had a front row seat to as a kid, said Dates, who grew up at Salem and attended its former school, Salem Christian Academy. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Dr. Charlie Dates . And Im not sure how bringing up holy men of other faiths comes into it I was at a Christian event seeking Biblically-rooted ministry, and thats what Pastor Dates and his wife provided. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Its more than just Progressive and Salem. To start, Dates will keep his current post as senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church, a 15-minute drive from the House of Hope arena where Salem Baptist meets. Ill become senior pastor of both the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago and remain that at Progressive.. He graduated with a PhD in historical theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. But dozens of majority-black churches are joining the SBC each year, so the numbers are still growingjust not as fast as they once were. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. Rev. What is liberalism to the conservative Southern Baptists? Shes ready to work. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Dates, 41, graduated from Salems now-shuttered Christian Academy. That was the old Southern Baptists, I promised them and others in our church. . He opposed the legalization of gay marriage,called for a boycott over funding disparities at Chicago Public Schools, and once served as spiritual adviser to disgraced R&B singer R. Kelly. And how have you begun planning to deal with those challenges? I dont see anything wrong with loving those who Christ calls us to love, which includes our brothers and sisters in Christ (that includes pastors). Hi. We want to see younger families come to our church and the last thing that we want is to stand in the way of that.". As I am contemplating leaving my current evangelical church, Progressive is on my list of places Im considering and praying about for a new church home, and a lot of it is due to the Dates family. Its humorous, its rewarding, and its worth more than the price of gold or platinum. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. The hard reality of the seminary presidents statement is that Black people will never gain full equality in the Southern Baptist Convention. The specter of racial animus and theological arrogance was giving way to a new era of Christian leadership, I suggested. In 2011, at age 30, Rev. Neither am I saying that hes the only significant influence in my life. They are ready to see their young adopt the very vestiges of hate that enslaved us in the name of Gods authoritative word. Datess 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American denomination. . If I idolized him, dont you think Id have followed him to his church YEARS ago when I first me him? They are ready to send their young students to the very seminaries that are both vestiges of racial animus and also the places where these harmful attitudes are perpetuated. Since then, conservative groups have been more vocal about what they see as an embrace of critical race theory and secular thinking by seminaries and denominational leaders, with the newly formed Conservative Baptist Network being among the most vocal opponents. I think that there is a place in the body of Christ for large and small churches alike; I have been a member of both at various points in my walk with Christ, and can speak to the benefits and challenges of both. 11,909 were here. That was the last straw for Dates, he wrote in a column for Religion News Service. Adoring sounds like its crossed the line into idolatrysomething a lot of these guys at bare minimum do nothing to discourage, and a few outright seek. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. He teaches preaching at Wheaton College and serves as an Affiliate Professor of the Baylor University George W. Truett Theological Seminary and as Affiliate . Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. I also want to suggest that Chicago, and America, needs churches that are developing and reproducing young pastors, that we become more intentional about it. I returned to our Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago with a bit of sophomoric optimism. Its time for Salem to move forward, he told his congregants. Its important to highlight that this is not conventional. I want to say it is an honor to even be considered, let alone asked, to succeed the Reverend James T. Meeks. I dont idolize Pastor Dates, nor is he my everything. Marin His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. Blessed to serve in the city in which he was born, Reverend Dr. Charlie E. Dates is Chicago through and through. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. To be clear, the SBC has some longstanding, credible Black pastors in its tribe, and I dont mean the kind who are tokens or assimilators. In his response, current SBC president Greear asked that fellow members of the denomination consider their concerns and suggested that there are things we can learn from worldly philosophies like critical race theory., Last week, prior to West and Datess announcements, Ausberry, who serves as SBC first vice president and head of the denominations National African American Fellowship, responded to the seminary presidents statement by saying that systemic racism exists and there are theories and constructs that help us to see and discover otherwise undetected, systemic racism in institutions and in ourselves., Especially for those of us who have experienced the brunt of systemic racism in our daily lives, our seminary presidents are good men and they had good intent, Ausberry said in an interview with Baptist Press, but the optics of six Anglo brothers meeting to discuss racism and other related issues without having ethnic representation in the room in 2020, at worst it looks like paternalism, at best insensitivity. James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Churchone of Chicagos biggest megachurches. Vance Pitman resigned in December from Hope Church in Las Vegas to lead the SBCs national church-planting organization. Return to homepage. The Rev. I will admit to knowing very little about Charlie Dates, but what Gus Chiggins posted is extremely concerning. It took a while for it to reimagine and revitalize and become relevant again. But you seem determined to dismiss or belittle it in some sort of attempt to insult the Dates and me. Perspective by Charlie Dates. "And God has blessed us with our own son who has agreed starting January 15th, 2023, to be the next pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago.". This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. That Salem is a loving church ready to work. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. Charlie Dates Current Workplace. I ADORE Charlie Dates. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. So for me, what attracted me was God. (I cant imagine having NEVER met your pastor one-on-one). Progressive got insulated at one point. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Both have spoken at Moodys annual Founders Week conferences. (Dr. Charlie Edward Dates is the senior pastor at Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church. That history is enormous. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. We want to celebrate YOU. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Book your appointment here. How will your role there look different? But we can actually press into the current culture and lead our young people and train them to lead a revolution for the kingdom and the glory of God. Its time for a younger generation to assume leadership at one of Chicagos largest churches. Dr. Charlie E. Dates currently serves as the Senior Pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois as well as Affiliate Professor of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and NFL Chaplain for the Chicago Bears. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. And God has blessed us with our own son as the churchs next pastor. Im here to speak the truth in love to you to keep you from going down a path that may seem comforting to you now, but it will ensnare you.. Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. "It's time for Salem to move forward. ), Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. "We believe now that the time has come for us to step aside, for us to yield to new younger leadership," Meeks said. That is absolutely a legitimate human need but I just dont see it as within the job description of a servant-leader of men in the Epistles. Photo courtesy of Charlie Dates. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago Pastor: Dr. Charlie E. Dates Website: www.progressivechicago.org Giving/Donations: https://progressivechicago.org/give IG: 99% of these megachurch icons and celebrities were nowhere near as righteous as Smith to start with, and only continue to deteriorate from that starting point, with time and fame. On Dec. 1, all six of the SBC seminary presidents without one Black president or counter opinion among them told the world that a high view of Scripture necessarily required a corresponding and total rejection of critical race theory and intersectionality. In 2011, Reverend Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor to serve the historic Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, which saw exponential growth under his leadership. I had to tell my church I was wrong. COMMENTARY: Six white men shouldnt decide Southern Baptist position on race. Wests The Church Without Walls (originally Brookhollow Baptist Church) has ranked among the 100 biggest in the country and averages 9,000 people in weekly attendance, according to its site. Charlie Dates of the Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, one of the pastors who have already severed ties, said the November statement was "the last straw." "When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism?" Great! Meeks, 65, founded Salem in 1985 and grew it from 200 to 10,000 members. It's time for Salem to have younger leadership. He has a bachelor of arts degree in speech communication and rhetoric from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; a master of divinity degree and a Ph.D. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. And I recognize that. I left that conference feeling hopeful. As I prayed through it, Reverend Meeks and I wrestled with it, and he graciously affirmed my sense of discernment. It's to multiply in every generation and right now the church in Chicago needs fresh dynamic trained Gospel fire leaders. When Albert Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist Seminary, said the only politically moral option for Christians was the Republican Party, I asked other SBC leaders, good Christian men, to challenge him. I like my pastor; I dont love him. How are you hoping to continue to cultivate that with both congregations? Over the summer, Dates discussed with CT his frustration with the lack of diversity among SBCs recently appointed entity heads, all of whom are white men, and the inconsistent support for racial justice causes. For questions or to reach his office, please email booking@progressivechicago.org. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. The leaders of two majority-black megachurches in major cities announced this week that they will no longer affiliate with the Southern Baptist Convention. Through his passion for learning, living, and teaching the Gospel, Dr. Charlie serves as an Affiliate Professor at Baylor University- George W. Truett Theological Seminary, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and Wheaton College. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. - Charlie Dates, pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, a church aligned with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mostly Black denomination, and also with the Illinois Baptist State Association, which is an SBC affiliate. Dates graduated from Salem Baptists Christian school, which has since closed. Martin L. King Jr. On the eve of the 50th anniversary of his assassination, it was as if they had come to reckon with the ghosts of their past and the theological underpinnings that ignored his ministry. He also told him hes still willfully acting like hes a slave because he rejects CRT. You see many people who are guilty of holding onto positions too long, he says. How do Salem Baptist and Progressive Baptist compare, and what makes you a fit for both congregations at this moment? Charlie E. Dates was presented to the church in February 2011. Woke Wars infiltrate Christian colleges, prof under fire for racial justice unit, Southern Baptists oust Rick Warrens Saddleback Church for naming a female pastor, Professor Joeckel on why his contract, teachings on racial justice are under review, Copyright 2020, Religion News Service. You talked a bit about both churches significance to Chicago. The resolution clarified the theory could be employed, but only subordinate to Scripture.. In a video message to Progressive, Dates said the two churches will stay distinct, though hell pastor them both. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Salem Baptist is one of several megachurches whose pastors are passing the baton. Im working to discern Gods direction as it relates to timing of when to conclude. We need a new vision. James Meeks, founder and longtime senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church on the citys far South Side. In accepting the role, Dates said he sees Salem Baptist Church of Chicago as a global church. Dates also served on Salem's ministry team for a while before leaving in 2011 to serve as the leader of Progressive Baptist Church. I have, by the grace of God, the DNA of both churches.. "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago by Pastor Charlie Dates.
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